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Re:Wraith Vs. Goa'uld 10 Months ago
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I like em both! The Wraith are more frightening then the Goa'uld could ever be (other than Anubis) and if you wanna do a "Rival of the False Gods" thing here then the wraith wins hands down.
The Goa'uld need tech to bring people back to life but the wraith use theyre own natural physiology to cause death (by feeding) or to give a human more life... If you go by who is more like actual Gods without intervention of tech, then the Wraith win.
Goa'uld have more personality though which makes them more interesting intellectually. I don't think the writers ever meant for us to see the Wraith as another civilisation, but rather more like a plague... Which is why we don't see too many recurring roles by the wraith, the more we know about them (personally) the less afraid we may become.
I remember the first few season's of Atlantis watching the base being attacked by the wraith over and over again. Really reminded me of those old castle battles where ppls and armies would be fending off barbarians for years at a time. which is another reason why they waited awhile before doing anything really big with recurring wraith roles (like the stories we've seen this season).
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Re:Wraith Vs. Goa'uld 10 Months ago
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I agree the wraith are more advanced physiolocaly, but when it all comes down to it, technology is what will tip the balance of power.
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Re:Wraith Vs. Goa'uld 9 Months, 3 Weeks ago
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i would have to put my money on the goauld for ground battles for sure espicially if any kull warriors were involved. space is a different story hive ships are pretty massive and have alot of weapons but motherships are from what we have seen atleast decently manuverable and there weapons pack a decent punch idk i think it would just come down to who has the more numbers in a space battle.
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Re:Wraith Vs. Goa'uld 9 Months, 1 Week ago
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Very true. I wonder what would happen if the Ori came into Play.
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Re:Wraith Vs. Goa'uld 9 Months, 1 Week ago
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Sunster02 wrote:
QUOTE: Don't count out the goa'uld so fast, in long range and close combat, the Jaffa would kick wraith butt. Staf weapons and zats can be ver effective, and it wouldn't take much to take down a wraith dart with a death glider. I wonder who would win in a ship battle. A wraith hive ship versus a Goa'uld mother ship. It would be pretty close.
My learned colleague makes a valid point. Though I think the wraith hive ships would decimate the Goa'uld mother ships, I think that they Goa'uld would put up a great fight with their death gliders and bombers. I don't remember seeing the Darts do much damage at all, it seems like they're simply harvesters. Along with that the ground fight could go either way. The big wraith seem pretty dumb and just walk into the fight like the English during the American Revolution. The Jaffa are highly trained and competent not to mention if you through in some of Ba'al's super soldiers.
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Re:Wraith Vs. Goa'uld 9 Months, 1 Week ago
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It's a tough call because they both have so much inner fighting, they fight themselves as much as anyone else. I have to give the nod here to Wraith though. Anytime your a species that gain their power through slaves, your eventually going to fall. The slaves will rebel sooner or later ,as we've seen, and eventually your power goes with it. Wraith don't have this problem, they do their own conquering. I think the wraith would just outlast them in a drawn out war and eventually win. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the wraith kick the ancients out of the pegasus galaxy? The Wraith always just seemed like a much more fearsome enemy than the Goa'uld to me, as I have said before its one thing to be a slave and another thing to be a food source. It's a whole different level of dread to bestow on your enemies.
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Re:Wraith Vs. Goa'uld 9 Months, 1 Week ago
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But lets not forget that the Wraith will more than likely try to disable a ship first instead of destroying it outright so that they can harvest the crew. If they take that standpoint I'll give the space combat back to the Goa'uld. I can see every Goa'uld order vessels that are about to be boarded to self destruct and take the hive ship with it. And I think the Goa'uld can field a much larger fleet than the wraith.
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Re:Wraith Vs. Goa'uld 9 Months, 1 Week ago
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Very true. I wonder though, would the jaffa not give the wraith a certain unlimited food supply with the jaffa? every time the wraith feed on the jaffa, wouldn't the symbiote revive the jaffa again and again if the wraith only take little amounts of life at a time?
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Re:Wraith Vs. Goa'uld 9 Months ago
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Taslo wrote:
QUOTE: But lets not forget that the Wraith will more than likely try to disable a ship first instead of destroying it outright so that they can harvest the crew. If they take that standpoint I'll give the space combat back to the Goa'uld. I can see every Goa'uld order vessels that are about to be boarded to self destruct and take the hive ship with it. And I think the Goa'uld can field a much larger fleet than the wraith.
Doubt they could take the hive ship with it, they'd use smaller ships for the boarding to stay clear of the blast once they noticed them using that tactic (if they even decided to try boarding the ships anymore after they noticed them using self-destruct the first few times, easy and quick to harvest on planets instead using darts). But yeah, I could see them using dirty tricks like that to try to take out as many Wraith as possible. And to your comment about Goa'uld fielding a much larger fleet, I'm not sure if thats true. I mean we can't prove for a fact either way but I always think of the Wraith as having a monster fleet, they defeated the ancients by massive numbers. Just like the ancients, the goa'uld would have the technology advantage with shields and such, but the Wraith would just outnumber them in my opinion. Also, the Wraith have an advantage of having just a limited number of Goa'uld leaders to assassinate, which would be another strategy to ending the war. I don't know, either way its a battle that would have been epic.
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Re:Wraith Vs. Goa'uld 9 Months ago
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i just have to say this, the goa'uld HA'TAK vessels are way smaller then wraith hive ships, infact the ha'tak is just as big as the deadalus, and thts just about a fifth of the size of a hive ship. to destroy a hive ship it would take at least 5-10 ha'tak. and i remeber someone early in one of the series of atlantis say tht there is at least 60 hive ships in the pegasus galaxy, i doubt the goa'uld have the ships or the man power to defeat the wraith.
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